toadinthehole 3:29 Thu Jan 17
Declan Rice: England or Ireland
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Which would you rather?
Personally I hope he does a Jack Grealish. Declares for England, never gets called up. Stays injury free, no stupid tackle from fucking Shaun Wright Phillips. Think Lanzini aswell, wish he’d never gone to the WC.
Thoughts...
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Barty
3:35 Thu Jan 17
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Ireland
Stay loyal to his roots
He kissed their badge ffs
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Westham67
5:13 Thu Jan 17
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The Biweekly Rice England or Ireland thread
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Capitol Man
5:20 Thu Jan 17
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Should pick whoever he wants to win when Ireland play England.
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Ronald_antly
8:06 Thu Jan 17
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Given that he's English, I'd say it would have to be England.
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Sven Roeder
8:12 Thu Jan 17
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He doesn’t appear the slightest bit Irish to me.
I saw Robbie Keane on Sky for the Spurs/Man U game and that level of shambolic gibbering is my benchmark
In his position his competition for England is Dier, Henderson & Delph. I can understand Southgates DESPERATION
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Pub Bigot
9:00 Thu Jan 17
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England, obvs.
Huge asset to the three lions.
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cholo
9:33 Thu Jan 17
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For his career England, for his and his family's safety Ireland, you know how those bog trotters react when they think someone has smited them.
But ultimately it should be the nation he feels most affinity to and most pride in wearing the shirt, or he may end up regretting it later on.
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Eerie Descent
9:35 Thu Jan 17
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He is English.
The end.
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Lily Hammer
9:36 Thu Jan 17
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I’ll back his decision.
The positive for us, if he picks Ireland, is that it would demonstrate a large degree of loyalty. More chance of him choosing to stay with us rather than going to a “bigger” club, like so many pundits think he should.
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cholo
9:36 Thu Jan 17
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And what eerie said.
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cholo
9:38 Thu Jan 17
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Lily
I think we both know that if he continues developing at current rate we'll be very lucky to still have him at 25.
In any case he may feel the sense of loyalty is for his country of birth.
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stewie griffin
9:46 Thu Jan 17
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He's English. But having chosen to represent Ireland he should continue to do so.
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Pub Bigot
10:10 Thu Jan 17
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I'd usually agree Stewie, but the FAI's underhanded way of using young foreign players deserves to bite them on the arse. They route out players across the UK and further with sometimes tenuous links and then guilt trip them when their nation of birth comes calling.
They're also happy to let Irish players develop at underage level for Northern Ireland before potching them when they make it at a decent level.
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TWe
10:14 Thu Jan 17
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He should choose England and I hope he does. Like Bigot said Ireland have only got themselves to blame if he does a u-turn on them.
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Grumpster
10:27 Thu Jan 17
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Have to say at the moment that England have a very good chance in tournaments with the exception of having fairly average defensive midfielders, so I'd love him to play for his actual country, as he's already better than the others in his position and can only improve further and strengthen the team.
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Takashi Miike
10:39 Thu Jan 17
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I'd love to see England win something so Declan would help that but more limelight at this time would only encourage more vultures to circle his agent, so I hope he picks Ireland
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cholo
10:46 Thu Jan 17
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The list of Ireland players born outside Ireland (the vast majority in England) is looooong.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Republic_of_Ireland_international_footballers_born_outside_the_Republic_of_Ireland
I didn't realise Kevin Sheedy was born in Wales.
Apart from a few notable exceptions (Barnes, Sterling, DORIGO) most England players born outside of England played at the turn of the 19th/20th century.
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Pub Bigot
10:50 Thu Jan 17
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It's where your raised that counts. My dad is Scottish and I'd rather lick tarmac than follow Scotland, a country I have zero sporting or cultural ties to.
Regarding vultures circling, they are already lads. Him representing England may increase interest, but not by much. His performances for us is what'll always alert suitors.
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stepney hammer
10:57 Thu Jan 17
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He is going to pick England. If he was going to pick Ireland he never would have stopped playing for them.
Not sure why it's dragged on for this long to be honest.
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REALGSA
11:06 Thu Jan 17
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Since Gareth is England manager Rice has a chance.
If it was some dinosaur then he wouldnt get a look it and probably stick with Ireland.
If I was him, I would go with my heart not head.
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